Lindberg faces retention election
My colleague Steve Hunt has just posted a story about the annual ratings of Utah judges facing retention elections this year.
Third District Judge Denise Lindberg, who is presiding over the United Effort Plan Trust, apparently received low marks from attorneys who have appeared in her courtroom.
You can read the story at this address: http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_10858844?source=rss
Third District Judge Denise Lindberg, who is presiding over the United Effort Plan Trust, apparently received low marks from attorneys who have appeared in her courtroom.
You can read the story at this address: http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_10858844?source=rss
54 Comments:
"...received low marks from attorneys who have appeared in her courtroom"
Not even knowing her, I bet I can name a couple attorneys that gave her low marks!
There are many attorneys in every state who dislike judges when they dont get their way brooke.
Usually Judges who follow the law, make attorneys nervous.
I dont understand what your stake is in this matter Brooke. Other reporters write the news without bias. For Example in Desert News there was a quote:
"“They detest the court's religious neutrality requirement," Shields wrote. "They seek a system whereby the Trust's assets are controlled by a small elite group who are free to discriminate on the basis of religion. They seek the ability to evict all non-FLDS people, and to control the lives of ordinary FLDS people by controlling where they may live, and by evicting them if they fall out of favor in the future.”
You give a bias one sided view by adding your own opinion, not just in your blog but in the stories you write in the trib.
Brooke, you do a wonderful job, keep it up. Flora's like of course don't appreciate it, your bad for book sales, but it's ok all the rest of us love ya. ;)
onthestreet
A company doesnt have control of your house, your belongings nor your soul.
FLDS does, and they do it through owning every house and property. A family owned business has its OWN assets, not the assets of others. A family owned company PAYS its employees at least minimum wage, and doesnt withold only what the law requires. A family owned business employees other than family members and a family owned business doesnt take an employee paycheck and pay tithes to a church.
There is more than ONE family involved in the trust. The state found the trust was not even written legally, so they changed it.
Just so you know you filthy old man, I dont wear panties! And For God's sake, get laid, maybe you will stop with the filthy language if you do!
Hahaha Marrie. You just made my whole day. I am also glad to see that I am not the only one who noticed that Brooke appears to be on the FLDS payroll.
onthestreet
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you are a depraved individual and you need professional help. You make scripture look filthy because you have a filthy mind.
GET HELP!!!
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The united order or "having all things common" is right there in the new testament of the bible. It seems that whether the FLDS are living it right or wrongly, at least they are trying to live it- which is more than you can say about the vast majority of religions out there.
wc
where does it say that?? new testament talks about helping those in need, sharing what you have with those who have not.
Flds isnt living for anyone but Flds. Who do they share with? The leader demands more and more money from them to fill his pockets!
There are many very poor people in Flds, but Id bet ya Warren Jeffs and Merrill Jessops bellys were never empty!
New Testament never said kick people out of their houses! New Testament never says think of yourself as above others!
Warren Jeffs should have blisters on his knees from praying, because Im not so sure God would forgive him for decieving the people who worshipped him and followed him.
Marrie,
Maybe you should invest in some anger management courses. What is the problem?
Brooke reported on the judges' standing based on surveys done after hearings.
Some judges placed lower than others.
Lindberg doesn't seem to be a popular judge. We have one of those in our community. Everyone knows who it is.
Unfortunately, there seems to be a problem getting these bad judges off the bench.
Meanwhile, why don't you and OTS take your feud somewhere's else where decent people don't have to read it.
You're both off the wall today.
Brooke, keep up the good work. We don't always like to read the 'news' because it doesn't agree with our views, but thanks for being one of the most unbiased reporters. :)
I check every day for new articles and am always disappointed when there aren't any.
Oh WHATEVER! Brooke is not on the FLDS 'payrole'!
Brooke is just a fair reporter who doesn't slant everything with biased opinion, so when she actually reports closer to the bare FACTS than the rest of the MSM, of course it looks like she is in favor of the FLDS.
Her simple truth in reporting exposes the whole fiasco for what is is: An attack on a specific unpopular religion. It is obvious to anyone who is not a part of that particular vendetta.
I am glad there are a few reporters who can comprehend fair and unbiased reporting, someone who is unafraid to shed light on the facts.....
you should try it Marrie. Also, get your GED, or take some remedial reading and comprehension classes, so you can understand what you read, and then try telling the truth in your reporting.....=)
Marrie,
Read Acts 2:44-47, Acts 4:32,34,35; Acts 5:1-11.
The problem isn't throwing people off the land. It is a question of making a promise, not keeping it, and what is the consequence for that.
first of all it wouldnt matter which woman was judge. Face the facts people, you dont respect women judges! Men judges tend to bend the law, women judges go by the law.
imho, brooke reports brookes facts according to brooke. Sure she is bias. If you read other state newspapers, you will reporters stating the news, not slanting the news.
song of joy, with such a blog name, you certainly dont seem to joyful?
IMHO,
you have got to be kidding!! lol
what is going on in Texas has nothing to do with religion, it has to do with breaking LAWS! you do assume know what LAWS are?
Brooke prints ONE side of the story, thats bias! you beleive everything she says like a lap dog.
when she posts a story on the trib, she leaves half the story out. how come desert news, houston chronicle, other newspapers tell the whole story?
there were 4 JUDGES who recieved below 70% approval ratings.
A real reporter would have put this in her own blog. 3 of those were Male Judges. But ONLY Denise Lindberg who happens to be a woman who is working the UEP trust case was mentioned in brookes blog. Can you say BIAS! DEMONIZING! opinion?
oh by the way, this is the rest of the story.
Seventh District Judge Lyle Anderson scored 63 percent for behavior free from impropriety, and 66 percent for behavior free from bias and favoritism.
Third District Judge John Kennedy scored 69 percent for understanding the rules of procedure and evidence, and 68 percent for perceiving legal and factual issues
Third District Judge Denise Lindberg scored 68 percent for behavior free from bias and favoritism, and 64 percent for demonstrating appropriate demeanor.
Third District Juvenile Judge Andrew Valdez scored 68 percent for behavior free from bias and favoritism, and 69 percent for giving parties a fair opportunity to present the case. His overall favorable score was 76.
True to form, Marrie doesn't read the article before she starts posting.
Marrie, That "major discovery" you just posted is not all that amazing, you super-sleuth, you!
You see,Brooke had already linked the article to her post. 8-)
You should call a friendly geek service and ask them to teach you how to copy and paste.....it's really cool.
Of course, you would still have the challenge of actually reading something and comprehending it......
If you weren't already so anal about the FLDS, you would realize that those LAWS you keep screaming about were CREATED to SINGLE OUT the FLDS, a PARTICULAR RELIGION! What is going on in Texas has EVERYTHING to do with religion!
And the sad part is, YOU KNOW IT!
I feel very sorry for you that you can look at the horrible way these people were treated, right here in the good ol' USA, and agree with it.
I cannot imagine such heartlessness.
I perceive that you have a hard time with truth, and telling the truth has probably always been a challenge for you.
And it seems that it is very difficult for you to tell anything straight or to actually grasp the facts as they are presented.
I have noticed that you like to twist everything just enough to give it a little negative slant, especially pertaining to the FLDS.....
So it stands to reason that you, a reporter, are irritated by a reporter so professional as Brooke.
She is a serious journalist, and she truly tries to present a fair and balanced story.
Do I detect a hint of jealousy?
Or is there something else?
It is usually the people who do not want the truth to come out who accuse her of being bias....
What are you trying to hide?
And why are you so angry?
Inquiring minds want to know......
Well of course I read the article! But, Brooke posts only about ONE judge. When she wakes up from her fairyland world and becomes nuetral instead of bias, she will be a better reporter.
IMHO
When Texas could give a hoot about what a religion believes. The point, when a religion acts on a beleif that has been against the law, then those who broke the law, have be accountable and face consequences.
I dont care what Flds or Methodist, catholic, baptist, or any other religion beleives, unless they break federal or state laws.
Since Brooke is catholic, I have asked this before, the dumb reporter that I am... Where was Brooke when all the children were being molested by Catholic priests?
I guess that was Okay for her to!
IMHO
Maybe its because I care about ALL children. Im not selfish enough to be greedy enough to care only for religious lawbreakers. All Flds care about are themselves, your simple mind should understand that?
They dont know or care about what is going on with any other race of children or abuse of any other kind. They stick the name of a God on their abuse and say its Okay.
They are an insular group, Im assuming you know what that word means. It means insulated against any other people race or idea. That in itself is abuse.
But legally you can do that. But marrying, having children with underage girls is NOT legal! After the 1953 raid at short creek, men decided there would be no underage marriages. LIARS! Do you think you God would condone that?
Im not heartless, I do care about children to a fault. But I have no respect for Adults who agree with breaking the law, regardless what they beleive.
"Maybe its because I care about ALL children"
Maybe it's because you are Flora Mae Jessop.
Why would a reporter from San Angelo have a dog in this fight?
"The state found the trust was not even written legally, so they changed it."
C'mon Flora you know that's not true
Marrie,
Thank you for the vocabulary lesson.
However, I think you have failed to see, again, with your infinitesimal mind, the irony of your post, in how you twist the meaning of the word to mean something just different enough to make it look way worse, i.e. by adding the words "race".
The ACTUAL meaning of the word insular is, according to the Miriam-Webster online dictionary:
1 a: of, relating to, or constituting an island
b: dwelling or situated on an island (insular residents)
2: characteristic of an isolated people; especially : being, having, or reflecting a narrow provincial viewpoint.
But then, if you didn't add the word, 'race' into the mix, it would seem altogether too blase, and so you simply insert a little 'corroborative detail' to an otherwise bald and uninteresting narrative.
Another part of the irony is that YOU, sugar lips, have shown yourself to be VERY 'insular' in your thinking, (being, having, or reflecting a narrow provincial viewpoint.)
And no matter how much reason and fact shed light on the atrocities committed by the CPS, et al, you still look for ways to justify it.
And all this "I care for ALL children" stuff?
I do not get that you care a thing for ANY children in the least. And since you obviously believe everything that the media says, you should at least acknowledge that CPS has appeared to be as anti-children, anti-family, anti-freedom, anti-constitution as any collective group of people has ever been in the history of the world.
To actually support and condone the actions of CPS and the state of Texas in this whole mess, in any way, shows that you are waging your own personal vendetta against the FLDS, which is very thinly veiled, at best, by your pretending to be so adamant about the LAW, the LAW!
And to claim you actually care about the children....THAT is what is laughable!
People can very rarely hide their true character in their writings.
And even with your lack of education, and inability to write, you still portray a very angry person who has a distinct personal hatred for the FLDS....
Cheese, I do wonder if she actually IS Flora.....that would explain soooo much!
Flora must have scared the sacred undies off of you folks. You see her everywhere! She's like the boogeyman. Pretty funny, really.
I read these:
Read Acts 2:44-47, Acts 4:32,34,35; Acts 5:1-11.
Although this is a description of laudable behavior, it is not a command to turn over all your possessions to the bishop. There is a remarkable difference between giving your belongings DIRECTLY to someone who needs it and making a treasury that is held for all by a fallible human being. It does not work without balance of power.
The trust WAS found to be illegally worded and if you went and read the court papers, you would see that. You can't have a legal instrument whose purposes are in writing to promote illegal activities. The trust could be written to do what you want it to do without that phrasing. You just can't get it through your heads that it's illegal. Must be some real strong stubborn gene being passed around.
BTW, stubborn is NOT a compliment. I don't mean 'strong faith' or 'consitent' or anything of the sort. Just a good old fashioned "danged if anybody's going to tell ME what to do!". Well, how's it working for you?
IMHO
First of all, I dont live in San Angelo. Second, Im certainly NOT flora jessop or any other law breaker.
Your dictionary meaning described exactly what i said.
Race, Religion, Culture had NOTHING to do with what happened in Texas. BREAKING the LAW had everything to do with it.
There was another man from a similar group convicted last week in texas for doing exactly what Flds was doing, disregarding the law of minors.
And the leader of that group goes on trial next month for the very same thing.
Im not predjudice, Anyone who takes advantage of a minor underage should go to jail!
marrie,
First, What difference does it make where you live? And what does that have to do with anything? Did I think you live in Texas, or are you just trying to distance yourself from the criminal actions of the officials in San Angelo?
It doesn't matter to me where you live.
Second, You say you are not Flora or any OTHER law breaker? So you admit that you see Flora as a criminal. Cool. That is a step in the right direction. So she is a criminal. Possibly a lair.... Yes? And liars, um, LIE, right?
So if that is the case, on what premise do you base your accusations against the FLDS?
Don't tell me that indictments are proof of guilt. They are not. They are simply proof that the grand jury heard the same stories that Flora and her ilk, people such as yourself, have been propagating for long enough that even they, and you, are starting to believe it.
The fiasco in Texas has everything to do with religion, and even you, with your limited intellect, know it.
And yes, It IS all about breaking LAWS! Laws that were put in place to TARGET THE FLDS!
AND YOU KNOW IT!!!
Texas created those laws to CAUSE the FLDS to BE LAWBREAKERS, because they KNEW if they had NOT, the grand jury would not have a damned thing, because most sane individuals in this day in time know that a bigamy charge alone is not going to hold a drop of water.
And you, hard-hearted Hannah, are as aware of this as the rest of the nation.
And just because someone goes to trial, does not mean they are guilty as charged.
At least, not in my opinion.
You are beyond prejudice. You hold a deep-seated hatred that is surely consuming your very soul.....and it aint purty......you should try life rehab along with Laurie.....=)
It can't be fun living like that.
IMHO
I do apologize, it was Cheese who said something about did I live in San Angelo.
As far as law, It has ALWAYS been a law in Texas you cannot marry or have sexual relations with a 12yr old girl.
Bigamy and Polygamy have also been against the law for many many years.
There are men indicted, no one knows till the evidence is revealed if they will be found guilty or not.
No man is an Island unto himself IMHO. Not even Flds.
At 3:56 PM, marrie said...
No, im not Cps. But I was at the hearing. Newspapers get bits and pieces of information. I know what evidence was presented. And I also know Cps and CASA representitive for Barbara Jessop were weary trying to get her to meet with them, even after 3 times.
It doesnt take a genius to see and know Barbara Jessop screwed herself right out of keeping her own daughter. Why? I dont know, but defiance got her what she got.
At 4:50 PM, marrie said...
Im a reporter for a small newspaper. But there were public at the hearing to. The hearing wasnt closed.
At 9:56 AM, marrie said...
Truthteller,
Yes, I am a reporter. Of course Im not Brooke Adams, and I dont condone breaking the law. Im in not way a bigot. Unless you call stating facts bigoted. Maybe you need to study facts? Look, I dont care what religious beleif a person has or hasnt. I do beleive children have a right to be protected from harm, abuse of any kind, especially that within the home or church, or religion.
Logical reasoning will tell a person, acting on a belief which is against the law, will get you thrown in prison. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. But this group of people knew the laws of Texas and when they changed.
No one could pay me enough to be a CPS worker. My side with the Law!
As well everyones should be.
I know quite a bit about this religion. The point being, This isnt about religion, this is about breaking laws, committing acts of sexual abuse and underage marriage.
It has to do with felonies being committed on children and bigamy charges against adult men. Thata what this is about.
I can separate the two, you cant.
At 10:22 AM, marrie said...
Truthteller,
Tell that to those who have left flds, who have no idea where family members are. Tell that to sisters who tried to help other sisters , only to find out, they disappeared and no one would help them find them.
Trust me, This nation knows FLDS is different, arent all Cults different?
You can hide the world from your children, but you cant hide your children from the world. Sooner or later, Choice comes into every humans life.
Now can anyone in their right mind tell me that this doesn't sound like Flora Mae? If she's a reporter then it's probably for the Phoenix New Times! If marrie is a reporter then where are all the articles she's been writing? This kind of vitreol would surely be visable in a newspaper on a regular basis and not just on a blog!!
cheese et al,
If she's a reporter, and that is a really big 'if', I'm guessing she writes for some sub-division newsletter. Or maybe one of those little, local, freebies....the kind on the window sill near the exit of the grocery store.....
Bright people who are not trained in wwriting skills tend to write the way they speak. So their spelling and grammar may be off, but the content, syntax, and language structure tells you that they are reasoned and intelligent. Even if you disagree with their premise or belief, or whatever they are positing...
Marrie, on the other hand, is a classic "box of rocks". So much so that she is impervious to insult, which puts her beyond educable.
Street, for all his hogwash and offensive ramblings is clearly a very bright man. Demented, but bright. And, truth be told, he often makes valuable points. Unfortunately, he cloaks them in such filth that they are lost on all but those with the strongest constitutions. Now he may say that is his intent, but unfortunately, it is those with less strength, whether of character or intelligence, who need the message most. I hope at some point, he considers changing his presentation in order for his word(s) to fall on the ears needing them.
All but the box of rocks realize that Brooke's charge is to write articles and personal blogging about issues and individuals germaine to the folks who live and practice The Principle. She is not charged with writing about the rest of Utah, or the world. Insofar as following her charge goes, she does a wonderful job. Her articles are clear and unbiased. And they are "news" based , in the context of her charge. Her blogging is a bit more personal. She has, it would seem, self appointed herself to 'humanize' the FLDS community for those of us outside the area familiar with the community. To be the counter-balance to the naysayers who would have all of us believe that the FLDS are the personification of the devil himself. If biased in nature, that serves a purpose. This blog allows us, the consumers of news, to actually be unbiased in our interpretation of what is written as 'unbiased reporting'. We have a broader, more human, perspective, thanks to Brook's efforts.
Judge Lindberg- Well, I am hoping that she is not reelected and that whomever is has the opportunity to read some select articles from Brooke's blog in order to come up to speed on the cases he/she will inherit. It would serve the bench well to have a more balanced perspective to approach the awesome task of the judiciary with.
Marrie...
So childish. You don't like what I post so you attack my name.
I grow weary of your wanting to 'protect ALL the children.' Hogwash. Those children were perfectly happy and secure before you and your ilk invaded their lives.
As far as your being a reporter. I won't call that a lie, but I wonder that you have so much time to spend blogging and demeaning others and then have time to write for your own paper.
And speaking of demeaning others - YOU call Brooke BIASED???
I note one thing that speaks world about your's and Brooke's character... She doesn't call you names or demean you.
She's a TRUE professional.
Smile.
Marrie, go read the title of this blog and then come back and say whether the Catholic priests fall under the scope of her reporting.
(By the way, it's my understanding that she's ex-Catholic, not Catholic. But I may be wrong.)
In other words, since that might be too hard for you to understand, her blog's purpose is not discussing child welfare issues but discussing polygamy and polygamists.
Cheese: At 4:50 PM, marrie said...
Im a reporter for a small newspaper
There is a small paper in El Dorado, the one whose owner keeps harassing the FLDS by flying over the ranch & taking pictures. IIRC, marrie had conniption fits when I first mentioned this on the blog & now I'm wondering "if the lady doth protest too much."
Just a hunch.
I posted some of marrie's former posts to show that her rantings almost always sound like Flora Mae's "beefing". She's either Flora Mae or she's spent a lot of time with her. Anybody notice that 'womamkine' dissapeared about the same time that 'marrie' made her gracefull appearance?
Cheese, I started reading this blog not too long before womankine stopped posting here, and I do recall that she was very anti-FLDS, but was she as 'box-of-rocks-ish' (~_~)as marrie?
(As rerickson so eloquently put it.)
I too have doubts that she could be a reporter.
"Marrie, on the other hand, is a classic "box of rocks". So much so that she is impervious to insult, which puts her beyond educable."
Oh really?! So if you're not insulted by ignorant people then you're stupid?
rericson's new book title -
HOW TO INSULT INTELLIGENT PEOPLE by Ignoramus
LOL
Laurie, honey,
You can do better than that. Boy, I gave you a break for a couple of days and you've lost all your skills?????
rericson, Baby, you need to find a better line of reasoning.
rericson said..."She has, it would seem, self appointed herself to 'humanize' the FLDS community for those of us outside the area familiar with the community. To be the counter-balance to the naysayers who would have all of us believe that the FLDS are the personification of the devil himself."
You're so funny I'm rotflmao!
There's a great big difference, rericson, between the FLDS religion and the FLDS people.
Laurie,
Ummm...yup....I did manage to pass soc. 101.....
If folks like you and Carolyn and the crazy one...flora...sorry...forgot her name for a minute...if y'all didn't apint the entire community with your broad brushes, folks like Brooke wouldn't necessarily feel compelled to show the world there's a different side to the coin...fact is, it's a many sided die, more than a coin....
Fact is, most of the FLDS, especially the women, are amazing, tough, resilliant folks, with hearts of gold....
You keep doing this nastiness and I'm going to start calling you 'Sarah...', methinks she took a few lessons from you before she hit the stump...maybe that's why she was so unavailable for the first couple of weeks...they had her secreted away with you, learning the fine art of nasty spin....
but not to worry, you're oh so much better at it than she is....she really shouldn't sell her minivan, just yet....
rericson
You get a B+ for effort and a C- for preaching to the choir.
Adios señorita, I'm heading off to my Sunday afternoon poker game. Yaaay!
And btw, I'm a HUGE Barack Obama supporter, I have been for two years...so there!
(Laurie sticks tongue out at rericson)
Still gonna call you 'Sarah'......
Hey, did they pay you as much as they paid her hairdresser or make-up artist?????
You hit paydirt on that gig!!!!!
Maybe you could donate it to what's her name to get the drop-in house going again...
Laurie,
Yer gittin' so big!
So. How about that life rehab? Are you considering getting 'fixed'? You know, so you can be a HAPPY big girl!
And so can play well with others.
=)
Speaking of "Sarah", you gotta see the cover of New Yorker magazine's halloween issue. It's a hoot.
imho, If anybody needs to be "fixed" it's that dog rericson. Hurry up before she does into heat, again. LOL
tsk, tsk...
Laurie, if we cannot count on you for good sense, we should at least provide good humor....
Sarah is really a very scary figure...nightmare material...
And, I'll have you know the bitch you see in the picture was #1 hound in the country for quite a stretch, in her day....the pic is her first Westminster show where she went Best of Opposite....
"We are what we're waiting for." Obama
This video is beautiful...
http://www.obamawinsaz.com
VOTE
street...
"Laurie" begins with the letter "L", so does "Love", and "LOL".
Now go do some good for once in your life and vote for Obama.
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No way am I voting for a candidate who publicly declares how much he disapproves of the Constitution.
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streety...I'm glad you can argue the letter "L" both ways.
There's hope 4 u, loverboy.
All the darkness in the universe cannot put out the light of a single candle. (forgot who said this)
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