The Salt Lake Tribune
Monday, April 14, 2008
News from the hive
Everyone knew it was coming, but now it's finally official. The Deseret Morning News has become the Deseret News again.



Editor Joe Cannon fell back on his skills as a former Washington lobbyist and GOP party hack to blow smoke up his readers, er, eyes in a front page-column on Sunday:
Five years ago making Morning our middle name was an important indicator of the rise-and-shine freshness we wanted to convey and embody.
What bologna. The DNews emphasized the "Morning" as the culmination of a decades-long campaign for credibility — the "Christian Science Monitor of the West" — by distancing themselves from their owner, the LDS Church. Besides, deseret* is a weirdass Mormon word that never ceased to confuse and amuse sources and media outside Utah. I know, I worked for the DNews (and, perversely, liked having the goofy Deseret in the name.)

But everyone with an IQ the size of their hat band always knew that whatever the name and no matter how solid the DNews' journalism, few but staunch Mormons would subscribe to a Church-owned rag.

But in the last couple years, the marketing imperatives of the Internet superseded the journalistic fantasies at the DNews. Media One, the company that prints and distributes the DNews and Trib, realized the DNews has a rich demographic to exploit as a so-called niche publication. Mormons from around the world will check in with a church-owned information website that is chock full of LDS news and chatter. And that sells advertising.

So deseret is back and the MormonTimes insert soon will come out twice a week. I can't wait for Joe's next column in the Deseret Alphabet, right.

*Book of Mormon word for honeybee.

11 Comments:

At April 15, 2008 8:02 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Glen's comments are a clear example of how Tribune reporters view Mormons.

Usually they are this candid only when they are sure when no one else can hear them, like when they are in the SLTrib newsroom, or in place where no one else is paying attention, like this blog.

 
At April 15, 2008 8:28 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous is right on.

Truth is, Tribune reporters are generally assholes making no dough, who are bitter that a place like Utah can actually exist today, and hope that their reporting can in some way "cure" Utah the same way they say Mormons think they can cure gays.

So Glen, and the rest of the Trib "reporters" like Walsh and Rolly, continue trying to "cure" Utah. Meantime, we'll just keep reading your bullshit copy and wondering how people so angry manage to get through a day without going postal.

 
At April 15, 2008 9:44 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the word you're looking for is "baloney."

"Bologna" is the word for "cheap lunch meat." "Baloney" means "balderdash, nonsense, garbage."

 
At April 15, 2008 11:42 AM , Anonymous Mike Carter said...

Gutless! Anonymous gets you no credibility, whereas Warchol, Rolly et al at least have the sand to attach a name to their opinions, worthless or no. One of you even talks about being "candid." Brilliant.

And, yes, it is "baloney" -- the word, that is, not necessarily the sentiment it expresses.

So is lumping all Salt Lake Tribune journalists into the same category as the above-named columnist and bloggers. If you don't know the difference between the beat reporters who work to inform, and the opiners who write to inflame (and boy, I might add, aren't YOU an easy mark) then your opinion isn't worth much even if you had the rocks to include your name.

Mike Carter

Disclaimer: I'm a Utah native and worked at the Trib for 14 years. Growing up in the Stepford State, I chafed the whole time under its yoke. Now, having lived the past 10years in Seattle, I kind of miss it....

 
At April 15, 2008 2:10 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mark,

Speaking writing to inflame, looks like YOU are the easy mark, not me.

You mention your previous experience as an employee of the Tribune, and then you call Utah the "Stepford State", unintentionally confirming the point I made earlier regarding the view Tribune employees have about Mormons.

And, by the way, how much "sand" or rocks does it really take to opine on something when you write for the largest newspaper in the state and have a bully pulpit that no one else can rival or adequately respond to.

 
At April 16, 2008 8:47 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

@anonymous

Dipshit. It's Mike, not Mark. And Mike at the Tribune and at The Associated Press was - and still is at The Seattle Times - one of the best, most energetic gifted reporters I ever approached to work for me, then bureau chief of The Associated Press in Salt Lake City.

Carter took the bait and ran with it all the way to reporting and writing about the biggest prison administrative scandal in Utah's history, for an example of his superior reporting talent. He also was the nation's first reporter to divulge the name of the Unibomer.

I'm very happy I hired Mike. I'm more happy that he was the reporter I knew he was, and I'm more happy to call him friend.

I also admire him for personal accomplishments, which were a godsend in helping me manage mine.

Bill Beecham

 
At April 16, 2008 4:56 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mike might be a great reporter, Bill. That's good to know.

It doesn't change the point the OP Anonymous made: Many Trib reporters (and apparently former Trib reporters) look down their nose at Mormons. The Stepford State? I mean, cmon, the Stepford Wives lived in Conneticut, and it was the Country Club style of the 50s. Even Mike's attempt at a compliment (missing it) is backhanded, at best.

You can come back anytime you want Mike. Even though it's not part of it yet, it's only a matter of time before this list: http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/full-list-of-stuff-white-people-like/ includes "Feeling Persecuted".

 
At April 16, 2008 7:33 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bob, er, I mean, Bill,

You and Mike are a riot. I kick Mike's ass on this board, and he has to send his boss in to stick up for him.

What a lame ass.

 
At April 17, 2008 12:10 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear anoymous said.

You miss the point. I haven't heard from Carter in more than five years. Yet, I can't understand why you believe many trib reporters are biased against Mormons. I can't see it in their copy. Peggy Fletcher Stack is a Mormon writing about her congregation. It's very positive, usually, but always factual.

Read, you idiot, before you spout. If we need any more shit from you, we'll scrape your lips.

Bill Beecham

 
At April 17, 2008 4:10 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go scrape the shit off your own mouth, moron.

Read Warchol's post and tell me it doesn't express negative views about Mormons.

Yes, he has the right to say virtually whatever he wants, and the rest of us have the right to call him on it.

 
At April 19, 2008 6:47 PM , Blogger George said...

Hey Anonymous said . . .

"Yes, he has the right to say virtually whatever he wants, and the rest of us have the right to call him on it."

Nota Bene: You have the right and you used it. That's the American way. Could you have written the entirety of what you said and see it published in the DNews?

Extremely unlikely. That church horn censors 2 of every five submissions to its "comments."

It bends to the extreme wishes of its owner - the "church" - and suppresses any thought not in lock-step with it.

I thank the Tribune and Warchol for allowing us to gather here and express ourselves. I even appreciate what you had to say, but your words certainly underscore the lunacy of defending what Carter calls the Stepford State.

 

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