'Husband and husband'
UPDATED...Utah Sen. Scott McCoy says he and his partner Mark are considering traveling to California to tie the knot. Still, McCoy writes on the Utah Senate Democrats blog, the California revolution in marriage won't change much in Utah:
Yes, some couples, including my partner Mark and I, may in the next few months head off to California to be legally married. If and when we do, we will be husband and husband under the law and in the eyes of the community in California. Of course, when we return home, opponents of marriage equality here in Utah will be quick to remind us that our marriage is only worth the paper upon which our marriage license is printed. And they will be right; for now.But McCoy says Utah same-sex couples should not waste their time suing for same-sex unions:
Since posting the above, McCoy has gotten into a blog-bate with Rep. Steve Urquhart.What we will do is make change, not through lawsuits, but by being ourselves and living our lives genuinely, just as we have been doing, only now as spouses. It may take time, but we’ll get to marriage equality in Utah. I have no doubt because of two things I know to be true: No. 1, Equal is right; and No. 2, Utahns are good and fair people who understand No. 1.
The St. George Republican writes:
[McCoy] notes that his pending marriage to his partner won’t be recognized in Utah “for now.”Read Urquhart's complete post here.
So, what do those qualifiers – “in the short term” and “for now” – mean? They mean that Scott and Democrats are working to force Utahns to recognize gay marriage, even though there is no doubt that most Utahns want no part of that.
McCoy fires back:
I, nor any elected Democrat in the state of Utah, has ever tried to “force” Utahns to accept or recognize gay marriage.
In fact, in my blog, I specifically say that I won’t try, and I caution other gay and lesbian Utahns not to try to “force” gay marriage on Utah through lawsuits. I suggested rather than ram gay marriage down Utahns’ throats, we should understand Utah law and we should lead by example and live honestly. That’s not forcing anything on anyone.
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I like McCoy's of approach. Even though Utah voters overwhelmingly rejected gay marriages a couple of years ago, the "heads we win, tails we (eventually) flip again" approach is the right course. Just because we lost doesn't mean we can't come back again.
However, this approach does not apply to vouchers. Vouchers are dead because the voters rejected it.
Wrong, Anonymous 9:19. The voters rejected BOTH gay marriage AND vouchers, so by your definition, BOTH should be EQUALLY dead. The fact that you distinguish between the two exposes your own personal disingenuity and intellectual dishonesty. But then again, you "progressives" never allow the FACTS to get in the way of the latest trendy crusade, do you?
At least Scott McCoy shows more respect for democracy than you do, Anonymous.
Judges should not make laws. Judges should not decide whether gays are to marry. THE PEOPLE SHOULD VOTE on such matters by state.
If the issue of gay marriage was left to a vote, there would not be any state, ANY STATE, that would legalize gay marriage.
DEAL with it.
". . . I suggested rather than RAM GAY MARRIAGE DOWN UTAHNS' THROATS . . ."
Now there's an unfortunate metaphor, if an unintentional reference to felatio.
I find it quite humorous that all the people who say Utahns are narrow-minded ELECTED this gay man to office. Yes, GAY man. They knew he was gay, and they still elected him. So it's not about 'gay' people, as so many insinuate. It's about what's right in the eyes of the law and the eyes of God.
Homosexuality isn't natural. The biological reality is that to have intimate relations with someone of the same sex is inherently wrong, will destroy a species if left unchallenged, and finally, against the will of the majority of the people in this United States. The only way these statutes pass is when good people sit back and let them.
Evil does indeed flourish, in California and anywhere else that people think this is a good thing.
"Homosexuality isn't natural. The biological reality is that to have intimate relations with someone of the same sex is inherently wrong"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25195286/
Voters aren't supposed to get their way with every issue. If voters decided, for example, to prohibit marriage between blacks and whites, judges have every right to strike down the will of the people in the name of the U.S. Constitution. The same thing applies to gays.
The notion that judges are making laws when they strike down the will of voters who vote on unconstitutional matters is absurd.
Yes they ARE supposed to get "their" way on EVERY issue; that is why we have a "republic". I believe it is a 2/3 "majority" as opposed to a simple majority.
No, you are the one who is wrong... We are a Constitutional Republic and we abide by what is written in Bill of Rights. And in that document it gives every person "Equal Protection" under the law. That includes; African Americans, Hispanics, and yes even those gays. Since marriage by legal defination is a bond between two people excluding all others... ALL people should be able to get married under the Bill of Rights. I suggest you actully read the Consititution.
If a scientific study suggested that men who frequently cheat on their spouses because of their intense desire for "diverse encounters", had a genetic component which they had in common, would this then justify it? Would they be protected from civil liabilities for infidelity? Remember, their are plenty of people who have impulses, but that doesn't make them all good and right. Try following everything your body tells you to do for a year. Then let us know how many friends you have left.
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