Mormon role model
Dustin Black, accepting the Oscar for Best Original Screen Play for Milk, made an emotional speech that must have resonated through Utah. Black, a gay man from a Mormon family, seemed to be speaking directly to Mormon gays:
When I was 13 years old, my beautiful mother and my father moved me from a conservative Mormon home in San Antonio, Texas to California and I heard the story of Harvey Milk. And it gave me hope. It gave me the hope to live my life, it gave me the hope to one day live my life openly as who I am and that maybe even I could fall in love and one day get married.
I want to thank my mom who has always loved me for who I am, even when there was pressure not to.
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This was a beautiful message. Not only to gay and lesbian people but all of us, can learn something from it.
Unfortunately, this will go over the heads of most Mormons. Until their Jehovah can change his mind, they'll be commanded to do the impossible: hate the sin and love the sinner. What a despicable religion.
How can anyone watch this man speak or even listen to his words and not be touched. He obviously is not a person without morals.
Very touching comments, no matter what side of the political aisle you inhabit.
What a tremendously courageous individual.
It's interesting, Korihor, that you would talk of a lack of understanding when you yourself are confusing the LDS people with another sect. Which one? I'll give you a hint, you used the name of their primary deity in your comment.
It's all good, though, because you seem to be an otherwise open-minded individual who would never indulge in such - what was your word? - 'despicable' practices as stereotyping or generalization.
Now run along and remember to do your research before you decide to make your far superior opinions known.
Korihor. What an interesting name.
Let's see what that name means
Korihor is a prominent skeptic mentioned in The Book of Mormon, in Alma 30. Korihor successfully preached ...that there could be no atonement made for the sins of men, but every man fared in this life according to the management of the creature; therefore every man prospered according to his genius, and that every man conquered according to his strength; and whatsoever a man did was no crime.[1]
So basically Korihor was an Anti-Christ. An interesting choice of name to go along with your words.
For those you use not Christian, an Anti-Christ is a person who is an adversary of Christ. Thus a non Christian person.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korihor
Mormons and other Christian organizations believe the Homosexual life is perverse. In ancient times they would stone these people. We don't do that today. I call it progress but not acceptance.
I believe in Polygamy. I don't live it as it's illegal but I still believe it's an acceptable lifestyle.
The point?
Some people believe I shouldn't live that lifestyle and I don't. It's not my choice but guess what. I obey the law and respect societies decision.
I suggest you take the clue and realize other's in society don't accept Homosexual marriage and get over it.
Waaah! I am gay and I wanna get married! Waah! I'm gay and it's not fair! Waah! Mormons are mean! Waah!
Boo. I am so sick of hearing about this. There are so many more pressing needs in the world than these issues. People are starving. People are dying of curable diseases. Where is the Oscar speech for the abused child?
God, it is so "me, me, me" with the homosexual community and the entertainment commmunity. I just lose it in all of their crying about themselves. Why did he not get up there and say "Hey, I am gay, and I want to bring your attention to another injustice where there are honest to goodness victims"... But it will never happen. People are upset becuase they can't marry? I know plenty of people who will never even find someone to marry becuase of something they were truly born with (such as a deformity or severe handicap).
It is time to redirect our courage to other causes as well. No one will die from not being able to marry. Thousands will die because they don't have water and food today.
One more comment...
I've known Homosexuals who are good and who are bad through the years. The only difference is they have a sexual preference which I believe is a perversion.
It's not an irrational fear or hysterical whatever. I simply believe it's a lifestyle that is wrong and I don't support along with many other's I believe is also inappropriate.
I've had people tell me that my belief in Polygamy is also wrong and I shouldn't be allowed to live that lifestyle.
I got over it. So should you.
@ Anonymoys, 4:12
You stated, "God, it is so "me, me, me" with the homosexual community," to demean Dustin's speech. I completely disagree.
Dustin Black's speech seemed entirely the opposite to me. He was honest, respectful and articulate.
Suicides of gays and lesbians represent a dramatically disproportionate of American teens, and even more so in Utah. Fear, depression, and the devastating effects of persecution cause great emotional and physical damage to homosexuals of all walks of life - especially the Mormon walk.
Regardless of any person's position on the political debate of marriage, there is no denying that these "beautiful creatures" as Dustin elegantly put it deserve to be told that they are beautiful human beings of God's design as much as everyone else. It's not selfish at all to say so, or to stand up for such a downtrodden group in the world. Failure to see that is a failure of compassion.
His cause, our cause, is a worthy one. And it ought not to be demeaned (especially not with such a poorly formed red-herring of an argument).
M. Eldridge, you almost make my point for me.
Suicide? Depression? I have known people who have battled depression for three decades, they raise families, go to work, and deal.
Nobody forces you to commit suicide, and you know that. Nobody says gays have to be depressed.
If a gay person wants to feel like a beautiful human being, as you and Mr. Black have put it, then stop looking in the mirror for God's sake, and look around. You feel depressed? Talk to the guy missing his legs. You feel abandoned? Talk to the girl without sight? You feel suicidal? talk to the mother in Africa deciding what child to feed and which will die.
Gays, straight, all are beautiful. Beauty is not something you find becuase someone tells you that you are. Beauty is found when people put others ahead of themselves. I applaud Mr. Black stating what he felt. But these are just feelings, for God's sake! I feel mad, I feel sad, I feel suicidal. Well, Get up and make a difference in someone elses life!
I promise you, if every gay man and woman in Salt Lake valley wanted to feel accepted, then come work with me painting houses for the less fortunate. Come with me to the food banks. Being gay and feeling bad about things will be seen in a new light. And, our community will come together, and I know people will see the gay community for who they really are.
That's what God wants for his children: gay and straight. if you can in good consciousness argue aginst what I am saying, then you prove my point.
Great message and tribute to a loving and accepting Mormon Mom. There really are some good LDS folks in the world.
Maybe some of these other folks will get past this Curse of Cain obsession against Gay people likee they (supposively) did with Black people.
Apparently, Allen, you've never been to a Mormon temple ceremony
"Unfortunately, this will go over the heads of most Mormons. Until their Jehovah can change his mind, they'll be commanded to do the impossible: hate the sin and love the sinner. What a despicable religion."
Hm, and yet you seem unable to do that as well, hate the sin and love the sinner. Yes, you think you're so witty because you use an anti-christ character from the book of mormon. Well, guess what? Bad things happen to Korihor because of his anti-Christ preachings. If you really had any human decency, you would learn the facts about others' beliefs, instead of misunderstanding what they do and don't believe because of your confirmation bias.
"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
-Evelyn Beatrice Hall
the only part that bothered me about this speech is when he encouraged gay and lesbian teens "despite" what their churches might tell them.
so, hollywood now teaches doctrine, eh? "despite" what churches teach, and "despite" what the bible states, and "despite" what god instructs, we should encourage this sinful behavior because it has been mandated by hollywood?
the scales are tipping my friends...
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